tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4531248303954963098.post8293056176853514612..comments2024-01-16T18:30:41.436-06:00Comments on The Badger Catholic: Milwaukee Director of Worship: Latin Mass is “rubric-centered”, “defensive” Badger Catholichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05389147035157025445noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4531248303954963098.post-11117986298309011662014-02-06T10:55:50.254-06:002014-02-06T10:55:50.254-06:00I actually re-confirmed on Tuesday with a friend o...I actually re-confirmed on Tuesday with a friend of mine who recently helped work on renovating the rectory at Our Lady of Mt. Carmel. They do still have the EF Liturgy every week. <br /><br />The parish is not associated with the ICK (the old once a month Mass was). The priests there actually came up from Chicago where they were doing great work in encouraging the personal conversion and holiness of their brother priests, regardless of their liturgical preference.<br /><br />I assume they made it up here through Chicago connections with Archbishop Listecki, as their ministry certainly isn't something his Eminence Cardinal George would forbid or even discourage JoshDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4531248303954963098.post-59018850787724103832014-02-03T21:37:41.636-06:002014-02-03T21:37:41.636-06:00Doh. I didn't know about the Kenosha parish. ...Doh. I didn't know about the Kenosha parish. I was aware of the ICK "branch"--and one was also operating in Sheboygan--but I wasn't counting ICK as "parish" Masses.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4531248303954963098.post-19173474341157255882014-02-03T13:43:20.594-06:002014-02-03T13:43:20.594-06:00@ Dad29... Unless it has been ceased because of th...@ Dad29... Unless it has been ceased because of the health problems the pastor has been having, Our Lady of Mt. Carmel in Kenosha hosts a weekly EF liturgy.<br /><br /> There was a once a month one being hosted in Kenosha for several years with the help of parishioners from St. Stanislaus and St. Anthony's but it has since become a weekly thing.JoshDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4531248303954963098.post-61774287729057970562014-02-02T15:16:36.891-06:002014-02-02T15:16:36.891-06:00By the way, one can find Dean's (apparent) men...By the way, one can find Dean's (apparent) mentor critiqued here by Dom A. Reid:<br /><br />http://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2014/01/beyond-pius-v-by-andrea-grillo-review.html#.Uu61Gvs7GXMDad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4531248303954963098.post-85400822168363513392014-02-01T22:45:03.876-06:002014-02-01T22:45:03.876-06:00I attended the conference - it was pretty much wha...I attended the conference - it was pretty much what it sounded like. On some good notes - no banners, no dancing, no clapping. There were some cheap shots at the new missal translation, but of anyone to come to support the new missal translation (although not an outright…praise) was Bishop Sklba, saying that although it is wordy etc… that perhaps the church is doing the right thing and that it unifies other cultures in making our liturgy more in sync with other cultures. The one positive point was in a talk from Steven Janco telling about how the teens from his parish were upset that they were the only ones at world youth day that didn't know the pater noster in latin - saying that we should teach tradition as well. Overall - no mention of traditional liturgies at all. They didn't bash things, just didn't mention it. It was pretty disappointing overall. (I'm trying to be generous here.) I realized that traditional minded people need to represent themselves as a valid expression of their culture and heritage or they will be completely ignored as the big push among them was "interculturation" and celebration of culture. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4531248303954963098.post-66068183287313646922014-02-01T21:23:02.868-06:002014-02-01T21:23:02.868-06:00I have long suspected that the antipathy to the EF...I have long suspected that the antipathy to the EF demonstrated by Daniels (et al) was made apparent by the decision of the Archdiocese to corral all the "EF people" at one place. It is a very good facility, but not even remotely close to the geographic center of the Archdiocese. (Granted, there is excellent access by freeway.)<br /><br />Note well that there are ZERO other EF Masses in the entire Archdiocese. Contrast that with Madison (!!) which has two or three regularly-scheduled EF Masses and even more OF/Latin.<br /><br />Daniels is an ignoramus. Worse: he's promoting his ignorance to tens of thousands more Catholics.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4531248303954963098.post-67383098486611231572014-01-31T18:49:33.484-06:002014-01-31T18:49:33.484-06:00BINGO!
We have a winner ladies and gentlemen!BINGO! <br /><br />We have a winner ladies and gentlemen!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4531248303954963098.post-38878634584134891602014-01-31T15:32:12.427-06:002014-01-31T15:32:12.427-06:00Agreed. At least at the arch/diocesan level there...Agreed. At least at the arch/diocesan level there needs to be at least tolerance, even if we are all second class citizens. From there, we are allowed to grow and flourish if God wills it. Badger Catholichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05389147035157025445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4531248303954963098.post-81461612905108275422014-01-31T15:28:47.150-06:002014-01-31T15:28:47.150-06:00LOL! Good point!LOL! Good point!Badger Catholichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05389147035157025445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4531248303954963098.post-51674655895154529062014-01-31T15:22:18.586-06:002014-01-31T15:22:18.586-06:00A remarkable story, as it shows what we're rea...A remarkable story, as it shows what we're really up against, in an institutionalized sense. There really is an ideological hostility toward the Traditional Latin Mass that is embedded in the archdiocesan bureaucracy/middle management. This is why any change is going to have to come from the grass roots, not from the top. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4531248303954963098.post-1544650100383016912014-01-31T15:06:31.662-06:002014-01-31T15:06:31.662-06:00Help me out here. If we can caricature the Latin M...Help me out here. If we can caricature the Latin Mass is 1) "rubric-centered" and 2) "defensive", can we caricature the Novus Ordo as 1) not "rubric-centered" and 2) "offensive"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com